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    Topic 100 - Prejudice - How Honest Can You Be?

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    Post  Waireka Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:57 pm

    Do you hold any prejudice? Whether it's sex based, race based, religion based... what are you strongest prejudices and do you alter any behaviours because of your prejudice?

    Eg. Bad women drivers, Indians being cheap, Muslims blowing people up...
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    Post  Tikva Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:59 pm

    Elderly Drivers!! That's at least one from me, at least for now.
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    Post  debs Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:01 pm

    I know I do because I believe that we are all programmed that way, even if just a little bit, cant think of any specific ones right now, but not about race etc

    I have a bigger issue with morals and religion etc..... but thats a discussion that could get me in the shit Laughing
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    Post  Psalter Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:03 pm

    I have all manner of predjudices... but I acknowledge the role of individuality.

    If I get robbed I assume it was a Maori... if one of my mates is hit by someone in a car accident, I ask if it was an Asian driver, women have particular roles ina family, so do men. I assume that I can't have an intelligent conversation with a person that holds a belief in homeopathic remedies... at least about health.
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    Post  Tikva Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:04 pm

    Why are we all still up at our computers at this hour? Smile
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    Post  Psalter Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:05 pm

    Tikva wrote:Why are we all still up at our computers at this hour? Smile

    Because we have no jobs to attend in the morning.
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    Post  Tikva Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:11 pm

    Ahhhh, thanks for the laugh, Psalter!!! It is day 13 of me being a non-smoker, so there's been few of them lately!
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    Post  Psalter Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:13 pm

    Tikva wrote:Ahhhh, thanks for the laugh, Psalter!!! It is day 13 of me being a non-smoker, so there's been few of them lately!

    I am at day 5 of week 6 of failing at smoking... I have managed to give up for 5 days 6 weeks in a row... then back on for a week... so that makes it 12 weeks.

    I really struggle to stay afloat.
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    Post  Waireka Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:14 pm

    Psalter wrote:
    Tikva wrote:Why are we all still up at our computers at this hour? Smile

    Because we have no jobs to attend in the morning.

    What he said.
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    Post  Tikva Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:17 pm

    It's bloody tough to do, but when you have a bout of Pneumonia and struggle to breathe, it kinda put's a new perspective on it all. In the past 6 weeks I have had the Pneumonia, found out I had High Blood Pressure, as well as High Cholesterol. Major wake-up calls, especially with my family history.

    At the end of the day though, it was the not being able to breathe easily that was the final straw. I do hope things work out better for you re smoking!
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    Post  Tikva Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:19 pm

    Back to the topic at hand...........

    I guess another prejudice I probably have would be Maori with Moko (?). Even though I know that it's just a tattoo, I always feel threatened when I walk past a male Maori with full face Moko, and make sure I don't look at him in the eyes.
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    Post  Psalter Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:20 pm

    Tikva wrote:Back to the topic at hand...........

    I guess another prejudice I probably have would be Maori with Moko (?). Even though I know that it's just a tattoo, I always feel threatened when I walk past a male Maori with full face Moko, and make sure I don't look at him in the eyes.

    Have you seen the ad for the upcoming amazing race?

    That guy must have heard about the headbutt incident... cringes away form Moko Maori like he has th plague when he attempts a Hongi.

    I lol'd.
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    Post  Tikva Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:22 pm

    Yeah, I have. It is rather hilarious, and will be interested in watching that particular episode.

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    Post  Waireka Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:29 pm

    Tikva wrote:Back to the topic at hand...........

    I guess another prejudice I probably have would be Maori with Moko (?). Even though I know that it's just a tattoo, I always feel threatened when I walk past a male Maori with full face Moko, and make sure I don't look at him in the eyes.


    I think I'm environmentally cultured to not find it intimidating (yet I find missing teeth and ugly hair intimidating), I grew up at Parihaka from 10-17, lots of the coastal residents had full face moko, but if you match it up with someone who looks a mess I will be intimidated.
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    Post  Linno Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:25 pm

    Like Psalter I'd judge someone who's into homeopathy as a bit dim, or at least naive. Can't really think of much else off hand, but I don't seem to judge too much on appearances more so on beliefs. Though even then I don't think I have that many prejudices, or if I do they aren't very conscious ones.


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    Post  metcalfj Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:29 pm

    I don't trust guys with moustaches, they always look look like they have something to hide.

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    I also don't trust guys wearing suits and power ties.
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    Post  metcalfj Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:31 pm

    Woops, that didn't work Surprised

    I also do not trust medical professionals whose income is reliant on drug company 'research' grants.
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    Post  Tikva Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:17 pm

    I think I'm environmentally cultured to not find it intimidating (yet I find missing teeth and ugly hair intimidating), I grew up at Parihaka from 10-17, lots of the coastal residents had full face moko, but if you match it up with someone who looks a mess I will be intimidated.

    Ahhh, so maybe that's the problem with me then! Pretty much every male I've seen (in person) with Moko is a Mob Member. Smile
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    Post  woody67 Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:14 pm

    I tend to assume that overly large people are lazy and a tad slobby.
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    Post  canterella Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:56 am

    At the Simon Wiesenthal Museum of Tolerance visitors are pointed toward two large doors. Above them, bright red neon signs designate one door "Not-Prejudiced," the other, "Prejudiced." On a nearby video, an actor challenges the visitors to consider whether or not they are prejudiced. Then each of the visitors are instructed to choose the door that matches their attitudes. When a visitor opts to try the "Not-Prejudiced" door it can't be opened -- it is locked.
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    Post  Anjewel Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:32 am

    Tikva wrote:
    I think I'm environmentally cultured to not find it intimidating (yet I find missing teeth and ugly hair intimidating), I grew up at Parihaka from 10-17, lots of the coastal residents had full face moko, but if you match it up with someone who looks a mess I will be intimidated.

    Ahhh, so maybe that's the problem with me then! Pretty much every male I've seen (in person) with Moko is a Mob Member. Smile

    Alot of girls I grew up with have the chin moko...They told me they deserved to wear it proudly on their chins because it told who they were...I guess they forgot they were the village bikes, party girls, and lighter fluid sniffers of their day, who only went to school once in a while to show of their pregnant bellies at the age of 15...

    I have a prejudice with those chicks and their chin mokos at the ages of 25 - 30, who believe they deserve it, considering my old Nanny was given the chin moko at the age of 65 as she earned it for who she was, and wore it proudly and was very respected...
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    Post  Kosmick Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:34 am

    Not really a lot of predjudices here, apart from Indians at call centers, I have trouble understanding them!
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    Post  dabiarch Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:00 am

    i know that i must have prejudices.........but i can't think of any major ones at the moment
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    Post  lois lane Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:34 am

    Well I have to admit to agreeing with Psalter re asian drivers ... so many accidents I've been to have involved them, plus being on the way with lights a-flashing and sirens a-screeching, do the asian drivers move? hell NO unless it's to move into the gap vacated by someone else who is moving out of the way ...

    We all have prejudices we've learnt as children, one I had was against dutch people, god knows why. but I don't have it any more! I don't much like spiders - is that a prejudice against arachnids?!!
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    Post  Anjewel Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:53 am

    is that a prejudice against arachnids?!!

    In the spider world yes... Laughing

    We talked about prejudices at work today...Alot of ladies were saying how their maori dads were prejudice against pakehas, yet had married one...These same ladies said it made them accept totally, all races, then threw in, except those bloody Asians...lol..

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